--- Examples ---
スイスというと何をイメージしますか？
When you hear 'Switzerland' what does it invoke in your mind?
なぜクビにならないかと言うと彼には超能力があり、彼の予知で数々の難事件が解決をみたからだ
To say (the reason) why he wasn't fired, having psychic powers, he solved
many difficult cases with his foresight.
何かというとあいつはいつも口を出そうとする。
Whatever happens, that guy always tries to interject himself.
何故かといわれても、知りません
If you ask me why, I don't know.
--- Comments ---
Is that actually how you spell Switzerland I wonder? ^^v (contributor:
Amatuka)
This is the best way I can interpret this example. It seems like a good one
of toiuto, but maybe someone else can be more precise in its translation
(contributor: bi-ru)
it looks like miki edited the example... in which case maybe we should turn
it green rather than red = 'edited' (contributor: dc)
Keep it in red for a while. (contributor: bamboo4)
added the rest of the sentence to put it in a whole context (contributor:
bi-ru)
I just added 「･･･。」 as the J-sentence seemed to be
unfinished. ばればれですね。:P Now it looks perfect.
(contributor: Miki)
I don't see a 「･･･。」 ? ex# 3109? (contributor: dc)
Yes it's ex# 3109. I added「･･･。」before bi-ru added the rest of
the sentence which you can read now. (contributor: Miki)
What is the difference with と言ったら？ (contributor: dc)
I think と言ったら is almost the same as と言うと but makes a
sentence more casual and colloquial.
ex#3115 というと is different from others. 何か というと should
be used a set. 何か_と_いったら means different.
何かといったら、犬に決まっているじゃないか。
(contributor: Miki)
I don't really know what the meanings for both 何か というとnor the
meaning for 何か_と_いったら. However, I think there's a slight
difference between toiuto and toittara. Both means about 'speaking of...'
but the former is just stating something in a neutral sense, whereas the
latter one is stating something more of surprise, or beauty.
So I think it's more common to say this
'沖縄といったら、文字でかけないほど美しい浜辺や海がたくさんあるようだね' with
toittara than with toiuto. I found this in the Kanzen Masuta textbook for
level 2 grammar. (contributor: nhk9)
といったら is used when making a conclusive or definitive statement,
allowing nothing else, whereas というと is more generic and allows many
alternatives.
Compare 日本の山といったら富士山だ(when you say which is THE
mountain in Japan, it would have to be Mt. Fuji) with the example #378
above. (contributor: bamboo4)
I've heard '何故と言ったら' before in a few lectures. The speaker
used 'なぜと言ったら...' to push the lecture in a further direction,
(seeing as there was no audience participation to tell him to keep going),
to keep it flowing. Almost as if to say ' 'Why?' you may ask; well, blah
blah blah.' (contributor: LittleFish)
nhk9 is absolutely correct. かといったら contains within it a
feeling, emotion, or surprise, while かというと does not. Straight
from the ALC literature for ２級. (contributor: KyleGoetz)
ex #5945: 「なぜかというと,しりません」is sort of weird. I
think it should be 「何故かといわれても、知りません or
判りません」.
(contributor: bamboo4)
Recommend chamging #5945 to that effect.
(contributor: bamboo4)
the rule for とconditional and たら conditional is exactly the same is
it not. You can not use と for feelings, request sentences or to want
something. ばconditional is the same I think.
so 家に帰ると、電話して下さい。is wrong
家に帰ったら、電話して下さい。
(contributor: kadoka66)
If you ae not going to change it, delete #5945. (contributor: bamboo4)
it looks like 5945 has been changed - but please feel free to edit the
examples, wikipedia style. (contributor: dc)
I was just wondering if this と言うと isn`t really a single grammar
point. と言う is often used to give an explanation of something. It
basicly means 'to say'
IE 何と言う学校で勉強しますか？
What is the school you study at called?
With that as it is. the final と before the rest of the sentence is the
sentence connective causative と that implies 'because of S1, Naturally S2
came to be'
so Ex 378 is really
When (Someone `omitted は`) says 'Switzerland', what image do you see
(Naturally without the ablity to control it `と`)
Ex 3109 can be broken down to a rhetorical Question followed by the
(natural and unchangable) answer.
Ex 3115 isn`t a very good translation. 'sorry bamboo'
何か means something so 何かと言う means to say something so a
better translation would be
when ever (anyone `omitted は`) says something, ( it is naturally
unavoidable that `と`) that guy will open ( let it appear `出る`) his
mouth.
(contributor: tigert)
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