文法: Grammar a Day - Level 2 [ 上で (uede) ]

上で (uede) - upon, after

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「Vta＋上で」have the meaning of upon/after.

Ex: #43
よく考えた上でご返事いたします。
I will reply upon careful consideration.

But, 「Vru＋上で」have the meaning of when

Ex: #392

メールを使ううえで注意すべきマナーって？

Etiquette to pay attention when using email?

--- Examples ---
よく考えた上でご返事いたします。
I will reply upon careful consideration.

メールを使ううえで注意すべきマナーって？
Etiquette to pay attention to upon using email?

手続きの書類は、必要事項をご記入の上、ご返送下さい。
For the documents about the procedures, upon/after filling in the necessary
events on them, please send it back here

みんなで十分話し合った上の結論なのだから、全員従ってほしい。
Since this conclusion is made upon/after the thorough discussion by
everyone, (we/I) would like every member to follow it.

--- Comments ---
Careful not to get じょうで mixed up with うえで because they look
exactly the same with kanji. (contributor: Amatuka)

Second example has an implied なんですか at the end of the sentence.
(contributor: Amatuka)

Oops. On second thoughts kill that -> ueha 'see also' (contributor:
Amatuka)

(Too darn many 上's to get confused) (contributor: Amatuka)

I finally saw joude when i was installing debian on my laptop ^_^ it was
something like
’このベースシステムのじょうで、ネットワークホストインストールすべきです。’
(contributor: Snake)

*の上で even (contributor: Snake)

I often hear people at work use as in 'PC jyou' on the PC... (contributor:
your name)

As for
'このベースシステムのじょうで、ネットワークホストインストールすべきです。'
is not natural for me. このベースシステムじょう（上）で
would be better. I think when 上 is followed by noun, 上 would be read as
'じょう'. (contributor: Miki)

You means when 上 is 'precceded' by noun. (contributor: bamboo4)

I think there is a need for の after the 名詞, before the
上で（うえで）, 名詞＋の上で
If it is verb　動詞 , then it is 動詞（た形）+
上で (contributor: 誠)

Sometimes, you can omit the で　：　上（で） (contributor: 誠)

PC 上　means ' about/for/relating about the PC' same as ex#392
'upon/relating about the using of email'
Like ex#392, here 上で means　' 〜に関連して ', whereas the
remaining 3 examples mean ”〜してから” (contributor: 誠)

A minor point, but in #5889, 'the necessary events' should be 'the
necessary particulars'. (contributor: bamboo4)

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